{"id":353,"date":"2024-05-19T15:43:41","date_gmt":"2024-05-19T15:43:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/aihealthinsight.org\/?p=353"},"modified":"2024-05-19T18:04:43","modified_gmt":"2024-05-19T18:04:43","slug":"the-big-climate-change-for-caribbean-island","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aihealthinsight.org\/the-big-climate-change-for-caribbean-island\/","title":{"rendered":"The Big Climate Change for Caribbean Island."},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><\/h3><figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/aihealthinsight.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/LimeWire-AI-Studio-Asset-7.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-354\" srcset=\"https:\/\/aihealthinsight.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/LimeWire-AI-Studio-Asset-7.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/aihealthinsight.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/LimeWire-AI-Studio-Asset-7-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/aihealthinsight.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/LimeWire-AI-Studio-Asset-7-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/aihealthinsight.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/LimeWire-AI-Studio-Asset-7-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/aihealthinsight.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/LimeWire-AI-Studio-Asset-7-768x768.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure><h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">This was or used to be your oceans in the Caribbean in 2023 -2024. It started to die because of the extra ocean warning that is taking place. <\/h2><p>List to this video to understand.<\/p><iframe class=\"murf-embed\" width=\"560\" height=\"102\"  src=\"https:\/\/murf.ai\/embeds\/index.html?embedId=lwdqqci4\"  allowfullscreen title=\"Murf Embed Player\" style=\"border: none;\"><\/iframe>\n  <script src=\"https:\/\/murf.ai\/embeds\/widget.js\" ><\/script><figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Climate Convo 1\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/m-EkV6n1cD4?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure><p>Here are some comments from a website:<\/p><p><a href=\"https:\/\/skepticalscience.com\/Where-is-global-warming-going.html\">https:\/\/skepticalscience.com\/Where-is-global-warming-going.html<\/a><\/p><p><strong>Summary of Comments 1-50 on Global Warming Discussion (April 20-24, 2010):<\/strong><\/p><ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>Ocean Heat<\/strong>: John Russell suggests that the massive thermal mass of oceans provides more consistent evidence of rising temperatures than the erratic atmospheric readings, making it a stronger argument for convincing skeptics.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Heat Redistribution<\/strong>: Ber\u00e9nyi P\u00e9ter points out that excess heat cannot transfer to the oceans if they are warmer and must go to space, following the Second Law of Thermodynamics.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Deep Ocean Heating<\/strong>: Ed Davies argues for measuring ocean heat content at all depths to understand the true extent of global warming, as surface measurements alone may not reflect deeper heat storage.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Mass and Energy<\/strong>: Peter H highlights the need to consider the relative effects of energy changes in the smaller mass of the atmosphere compared to the larger mass of the oceans.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Communication Challenges<\/strong>: Juliet Davenport emphasizes the need for clearer communication on global warming impacts, explaining what heating the oceans and atmosphere means in practical terms.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Pragmatism in Measurements<\/strong>: HumanityRules mentions that the focus on atmospheric measurements is pragmatic, given the majority of observations are conducted there, despite its small percentage of the Earth&#8217;s total heat content.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Volatility of the Atmosphere<\/strong>: Glenn Tamblyn underscores the volatility of the 2.3% of energy in the atmosphere, which is critical as it directly affects human life.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Data Gaps<\/strong>: mspelto points out the lack of measuring instruments in polar regions, suggesting that missing heat might be stored there.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Medical Analogy<\/strong>: Steve L discusses the comparison of global warming communication to medical communication, noting that people accept medical advice despite its complexity because it is well-communicated and there is limited counter-communication.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Thermodynamics and Heat Transfer<\/strong>: Chris argues that the atmosphere&#8217;s warming due to radiative imbalance can suppress ocean heat loss, even if the atmosphere remains cooler.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Phytoplankton&#8217;s Role<\/strong>: dscheidt explores the idea that increased phytoplankton growth, which absorbs heat, could account for some missing energy, though this is debated.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Arctic and Antarctic Focus<\/strong>: Albatross and others discuss the potential of the Arctic Ocean and Antarctic ice shelves as significant heat sinks, with inadequate current measurements.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Importance of Total Energy<\/strong>: Glenn Tamblyn and others stress the need to consider the total energy change rather than focusing solely on surface temperature measurements.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Graphics Accuracy<\/strong>: Andy Skuce and the response from moderators address the need for accurate visual representations of data, ensuring areas are proportional to magnitudes.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Terminology and Miscommunication<\/strong>: suibhne criticizes the use of terms like &#8220;heat storage,&#8221; advocating for more precise language to avoid misunderstanding.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Data Availability and Coverage<\/strong>: Ber\u00e9nyi P\u00e9ter provides a detailed breakdown of Arctic station coverage, emphasizing significant station dropouts, particularly in Canada, affecting data reliability.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Alternative Explanations<\/strong>: Multiple commenters explore various explanations for the &#8220;missing heat,&#8221; including the potential role of phytoplankton, deeper ocean layers, and measurement gaps in polar regions.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Sea Level Rise and Thermal Expansion<\/strong>: HumanityRules and GFW discuss the contributions of thermal expansion and melting ice to sea level rise, noting recent data and research.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Global Warming Communication<\/strong>: Overall, the comments reflect a need for improved communication and understanding of global warming&#8217;s complexities, the role of different heat sinks, and the importance of comprehensive data collection and interpretation.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Gerlich and Tscheuschner&#8217;s Paper<\/strong>: suibhne, jibal, and others discuss the controversial paper by Gerlich and Tscheuschner, which claims to falsify the CO2 greenhouse effect. The paper is heavily criticized for its misunderstanding of thermodynamics and radiative equilibrium, with several commenters, including KR and sylas, refuting its claims and emphasizing the importance of peer-reviewed science.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Radiative Equilibrium<\/strong>: suibhne expresses skepticism about radiative equilibrium and questions the concept of back radiation, leading to detailed explanations and rebuttals from other commenters about the fundamentals of thermodynamics and heat transfer.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Photovoltaic IR Panels<\/strong>: Riccardo and Doug Bostrom discuss the theoretical possibility of using photovoltaic IR panels to harness back radiation, highlighting the challenges and practical limitations of such technology.<\/li>\n\n<li><strong>Rebuttals to G&amp;T<\/strong>: sylas, a co-author of a formal rebuttal to Gerlich and Tscheuschner, provides references to published rebuttals and emphasizes the lack of scientific merit in G&amp;T&#8217;s work. This discussion underscores the importance of adhering to established scientific principles and peer-reviewed research in the climate science debate.<\/li><\/ol><p>These comments reflect a broad and nuanced discussion on global warming, emphasizing the need for accurate data, effective communication, and consideration of various factors affecting the Earth&#8217;s climate system.<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"559\" height=\"396\" src=\"https:\/\/aihealthinsight.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/If-you-are-too-busy-to-take-this-course-at-least-leave-with-this-message.-These-Caribbean-countries-may-not-get-cold-but-it-is-getting-very-hot-and-humid-and-you-need-to-adapt-mitigate-this-ch.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-362\"\/><\/figure>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This was or used to be your oceans in the Caribbean in 2023 -2024. It started to die because of the extra ocean warning that is taking place. 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